svetlana14
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I hear the guy does not say soda fountain pronouncing foun. Doesn't he?
47:33.
He clearly says "soda fountain". I'm not sure why you can't hear it. The second syllable of the word is a little bit swallowed, making it sound like "foun(t)uhn". That's a common way of pronouncing it. I believe the term for the "t" is a "glottal t".I cannot hear the guydoes notsay "foun" in soda fountain.pronouncing foun.Doesn'tDoes he?47:28.
Is his way of pronouncing consonant with/ˈsaʊnə/?He clearly says "soda fountain". I'm not sure why you can't hear it. The second syllable of the word is a little bit swallowed, making it sound like "foun(t)uhn". That's a common way of pronouncing it. I believe the term for the "t" is a "glottal t".
Note my corrections to your opening sentences.
I don't know what this means - can you ask your question a different way please? Also, I'm not great with phonetic symbols but that doesn't look like it says "soda" to me. Is that what it's meant to say.Is his way of pronouncing consonant with/ˈsaʊnə/?
That rhymes with toner./ˈsaʊnə/?
Ah. I thought it was either toner or sauna. @svetlana14 There's no "n" in soda. What were you trying to ask?That rhymes with toner.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm still struggling to understand why I cannot hear the ending or the second syllable in fountain. I imagined that the fountain could be rhymed with sauna/ˈsaʊnə/ in case t is a glottal stop in the fountain. Is it possible?Ah. I thought it was either toner or sauna. @svetlana14 There's no "n" in soda. What were you trying to ask?
Can you please give me a couple of words which would sound like that under such circumstances?The entirety of the second syllable is extremely short. You're expecting to hear a clear "t", then perhaps a long "ai" and then a clear "n". None of those things are "there". The "tain" is more like a glottal t, a short "uh" and a barely perceptible "n".
Normally, I would suggest that a learner visit Forvo to hear pronunciations of words. However, in this case, it won't help because on Forvo people tend to enunciate very clearly. The voice in your example video is saying the word in a more everyday, standard, rapid speech style.
I don't think you need to worry about it too much!!!
In the video recording you mentioned in your post, the lady uses a stop t. Interestingly, Rachel (a very popular American teacher on Youtube) does not use the term "stop t" in her video recording - she says instead that it is the case of the so-called "stop t", giving the word "mountain" as an example. In addition, another American teacher says that sometimes Americans call glottal stop as stop t. I would say that the link you kindly gave me is closer to the stop t as Rachel explains in her posted Youtube video recording and it is Rachel's pronunciation resembles the way the guy from my original post says. Have you any idea? Is it correct?[2:54]
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